The Atheist Delusion (2016)

atheistdelusionOne of the many aspects that I love about Ray Comfort’s mercifully short documentary about challenging the views of atheists is that Comfort just eventually gives up. Mid-way through his hour long masturbatory self-promotion fest that doubles as an ego shining for Comfort, he just outright gives up trying to convince his interview subjects and spends about five minutes badgering them in to submission. He relentlessly bugs them in to admitting begrudgingly that they believe in a God, and that they are simply in denial. Ray Comfort is beyond the capacity of accepting that atheists exist, and spends at least a good stretch of the final half of the film insisting: “Come on, you know God exists. Admit it. Admit it. You know it in your heart. You just like to sin, that’s it. Admit it. Do it. Do it!”

At one point he even goads someone with the declaration “You love your porn,” as a reason for their unwillingness to admit to a God’s existence. Hey I love my porn, but if you’re going to give me a compelling argument for another viewpoint that doesn’t rely on the bible, or ancient theological debate traps and pitfalls, I’ll be willing to listen. Then when he can’t guilt his subjects in to submission he turns his God in to a boogeyman insisting God saw them when they were having erotic thoughts, and thinking sinful things. And you better believe or he’s gonna get you!  Ray Comfort doesn’t offer any kind of new or outstanding argument. “The Atheist Delusion” is more “How to argue like a stereotypical Evangelical Christian.” Ray Comfort’s “The Atheist Delusion” isn’t so much a documentary as it is a glorified segment of the Jay Leno skit “Jaywalking.”

Rather than research various scientists and discussing ideas and issues with atheists and skeptics, he merely walks in to various environments and tries his best to badger various people that claim they are indeed atheist. And of course he confronts people that are either unprepared for his interview, or simply don’t believe and aren’t experts in the science of evolution and biology. So with crafty editing, Ray Comfort helps his subjects fall in to the clichés of what an atheist is. They’re elderly and senile, young and “going through a phase,” or someone who maybe had such a tough life they denounced their obvious belief in a deity out of childish spite. Those kinds of fallacies and leaps to conclusions are just lazy if classic fallbacks for someone like Comfort who simply can’t think outside the box and is unwilling to consider new ways to challenge the atheist viewpoint.

Along with the aforementioned there’s also the watchmaker argument, the chicken or the egg argument, and yes, even the “God is in the Gaps” argument. But hey, at least we get some insight from Tim Allen. Th-that’s rock solid proof of a God right there.

  • Jeremy Greenwalt

    This review is like listening to a grave digger tell you about space flight. True Christianity is something that only a deep, personal experience can show the proof you seek. If you want to see God and seek him, you will. But most people just don’t want to admit they are and will be accountable for their own sin.

    • FlixtheCat

      “True Christianity is something that only a deep, personal experience can show the proof you seek.”

      This is called the No True Scotsman fallacy. Thank you, come again.

      • Jeremy Greenwalt

        Lol yep that’s a theory, but it’s not mine. Also a theory is not fact. You people have problems with that. Oh you have your rules about fallacy this and that but it’s not going to change the fact that God has called those who believe in Him to share his truth and good news. Even if you deny it. I pray you see one day friend. And tell you this only that you will believe. I don’t get a trophy for what God has already done…, Hey if I’m right in my belief of Jesus as my savior then you lose more than just an argument. God bless

        • Jmac24

          If a “deep personal experience” is what we all need to believe in your god, then why is Comfort, or you even trying to convince anyone? We are all just waiting for the grace of your God to intervene in our lives anyway, so let him intervene. And butt out. And you’ve only conveyed HALF of what the bible says about God calling those who HE chose to believe. You forgot that the other half of unbeliever, God sends FALSE visions to. God makes believer, and unbelievers. None of it is your choice or our fault. God did it. So go on and stop judging us for what your God admitted 2000 years ago. Well actually, what Paul says he received in his brain after a fevered vision 2000 years ago. In fact, not ONE of the Gospel authors ever met Jesus in the flesh. Not one.

          • Jeremy Greenwalt

            https://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-whom And you don’t have get upset friend. If you read my comments I never judged anyone. We all judge ourselves. Only God changes hearts.

          • Jmac24

            You have judged all nonbelievers as needing to find YOUR god. Just leave us alone. Stop going on and on about YOUR beliefs. Nobody wants to hear them anymore…

          • FlixtheCat

            They all think anyone who isn’t Christian needs to be “saved.”

          • Lizard

            Even more toxic, that nonbelievers really want to believe and are just waiting for the right witness to convert them.

          • Derrik Pates

            And you’re a CARM troll. Of course you are. Go tell Matt Slick he’s an idiot.

        • FlixtheCat

          In the end there, you used pascal’s wager in an argument.

          That’s yet another cliche creationists and religious use as a means of arguing against atheists and people that don’t believe. Please use something more original, I beg you.

        • jnail7

          Correct, a theory is not a fact. A theory (at least scientific ones) are the result of tested hypotheses based on measured facts. As new facts are discovered or better means of measuring are developed, theories are updated. If competing evidence provides a more effective alternative, then the theory is replaced. You seem to confuse the concept of theory with the concept of baseless opinion (like religion ).

        • jnail7

          The rules of logic provide an objective means for evaluating an argument. The concept of a fallacy is simply the failure to support one’s conclusion based on the premises presented, thus failing to effectively communicate the value of your idea. Both your use of the “no true Scotsman fallacy” and the flawed “Pascal’s wager” result in your wasting text in saying nothing of meaning. Look them up and learn why they are ineffective, at minimum so you can provide better witness.

        • Anri

          Hey if I’m right in my belief of Jesus as my savior then you lose more than just an argument.

          Ah, Pascal’s Wager.
          Any chance we could get an apologetic argument not already 400 years out-of-date?
          Just as a change, I mean?

        • Ah, Jeremy, but what if you’ve got the wrong god and the wrong eternal torment? Do you really want to spend eternity reading old magazines in Niflheim because the Æsir and Vanir didn’t think you were Valhalla material and the fire giants didn’t want you either? 😀

    • starskeptic

      I have the same problem with true psychics – in that there’s no difference between a true one and a fake one…

    • MarquisDeMoo

      “only a deep, personal experience can show the proof you seek” There is a fundamental flaw in your assumptions; atheists do not seek proof that your god exists. Do you seek proof that the Hindu gods exist? As you might for a Hindu, the atheist rightly demands that YOU provide proof to support your fantastic claims. Unfortunately your case is not helped by the fact that there is absolutely no difference between your deep personal experience and a delusion and if it walks like a duck…

    • Mike Pence

      Why does God only care about the Israelites in the Old Testament and completely ignore the other 99% of people?

  • I think you meant “Jaywalking.” Right?

    • FlixtheCat

      Thanks for the correction! I haven’t seen any Jay Leno stuff since 1998.

  • Mike Pence

    Why did God makes us like porn?

  • lara

    Comfort uses creator theory, so who is gods creator?
    Creator theory which are used in this “Documentary” is like: If something/someone has existence, than it must have a creator. So who is gods creator? Who is gods creators creator? Who is gods creators creators creator?
    If you answer it’s supernatural or god is creator of all, than that’s not valid, because with this theory, if you have existence (To religious people god is existence), than who has created that existence.
    And no with this you cannot see this theory doesn’t touch god, because you cannot touch him or anything like that.

    Anything you will try to answer to collapse this creator theory, than you are collapsing Comfort’s creator theory too. Because they are the same.

  • alli

    This movie proves nothing. One cannot prove the existence of God by using the bible. This is more a sermon to make one feel guilty about not believing in God. I believe, BTW. Just not the “God” in the bible. My god is all loving and will accept everyone.

  • Monika Woods

    Scientific facts. That’s a good one. When I was 12 the scientists just KNEW Mt. St. Helen, and other volcanoes were “extinct.” Then BOOM. Blew that theory out of the water.
    Science is constantly being written, re-written, and proven to be missing a key element.
    Science and the Judeo-Christian Bible work well together. In it you can find out that you should burn anything with red mold (written 2500+ years ago)- which we now know to be a dangerous bacteria that can kill you.
    There is also information about everything being made of “unseen things.” Also, “all nations are made from one blood.” Additionally “God sits above the circle of the earth.”

    How does the Bible begin? With the epitome of scientific experimental process. Time “In the beginning”; force “God”; action “Created”; space “the heavens”; matter “and the earth.”
    Everything one needs for the beginning of an ordered creation which we call life.

    If you seek God you will find God. If you reject God you may be rejecting the greatest gift which has ever been offered to you.

    No need to be angry, stirred up, or offended by my post. Just offering my small take on what life looks like from where I stand and what I have witnessed. May you each have a journey which leads you to truth, and let’s please learn to be kind to one another.